@jupiter @xavierck @TheMNWolf @susan77 Even a five year old child is capable of learning simple logical rules and operating on them. Stove is hot, burns my hands, I shouldn't touch stove ever again. (Maybe a bad example as it might traumatise a bit). None of these models that you mention does any kind of reasoning. Of course intelligence is about more than just simple, cold reasoning, but at the same time, "intelligence" devoid of any verifiable, testable reasoning is not intelligent at all.