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@SocialistStan @condalmo @moondog548 @Radical_EgoCom the 40-50% of the electorate that doesn't vote have a politics that is more in line with you and I than any of the "representatives" in office. that's why they don't vote, just like you. if you as a group demand to be heard, you will define the politics of the party. I know, I know, but you want anarchy not a new state. you're not a bunch of tankies, I understand. but that's progress towards your goal. if we start with a government that maybe holds police responsible for murdering, we can collectively breath a little easier and put our efforts elsewhere. I just don't understand why you would want to make the path towards your goal harder than it already is?