@GalacticTurtle @Mynona @DoctorDee I've done some reading and researching on American communes and such. It requires a religious grounding to keep them going, recruiting and staying alive. Now this "religion" can also be spiritualism, cultish, etc. It just needs some foundation of higher beliefs to sustain itself. There will never be a rational commune that Turtle could fit happily into. Reason is not sustaining, but plenty have tried. The closest thing Turtle could find today that resembles a reason-based commune is a small island community off the coast somewhere. Or a house-boat community.