> Idk why youre brining this up but TPP is another great example of non democratic practices. Some homo in DC made it up so he and his friends could get paid. Zero votes were cast for such nonsense

No one is saying nondemocratic practices don't happen. But the TPP was stopped: the US government USTR/etc came up with it, tried to push it on the public *and the public resisted it*.

>Zero democracy involved.

Except the supreme court is appointed by elected people, so yeah, there is democracy involved. Also: the status quo of roe v. wade was kept for decades because millions of americans were in favour of it: even up until Trumps supreme court nominees 'will you touch roe v. wade' was seen as an early question to assess whether or not supreme court nominees would be accepted. Turns out some supreme court nominees were liars, and they were appointed despite promises not to touch roe v. wade... but that happens in politics sometimes

> Another great example. Obama ran on public health care. Ultimately what he signed was a massive wealth transfer too the insurance companies and american health care hasnt recovered since but the profit margins are up big time

Sure. Compromises happen in democracies, that is a good example of one.