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@ciggysmokebringer "Better to pick up a good book or fun game or doodle with music than be confined to the holographic beer hall" that may be true for big online communities like forums or whatever where it isn't about meaningful specific relationships as just "having a crowd," but like, all of my personal, one to one friends that I've supported through hardships, and have supported me through the same, who I've poured my heart out to and listened to their deepest darkest fears and secrets, who I've swapped life advice with and everyday updates and real names and addresses and all the things that best friends are supposed to have, are online too, and I don't think that is "ultimately a dead end" or whatever. I'm not sure how you could come to that conclusion except for prejudice. It would be better if I could see them in meatspace too, but I don't think relationships over the wire are any less legitimate or authentic, and it's a very small set of people — who have to be at the center of a large number of intersecting Venn diagrams — that I can really be comfortable having a really meaningful relationship with.