@lilli @Mondobizarrro @nyx eh. varies. the conservative ones are some of the worst. theres a reason they were one of the first to split over ordaining women and gay people breathing. also the new calvinist presbyterians make me cry because they somehow manage to be bad at calvinism in a calvinist denomination. i dont even like calvinism but if youre going to make it your whole thing you should be okay at it.