@DEERBLOOD @wgiwf @Tactical @Xenophon @BigDuck @Boomerman @Owl At some point, they probably were. Odds are most of them, if they built the business, would get incolved if it meant getting their hands dirty to save their business. That's what men do. I have friends who own tradey companies and it's the same thing. Sometimes you roll up the sleeves, put on the gloves, and do the needful.