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@avantgeared @Radical_EgoCom I dont have a dog in this idealogical spat

But "look at china"..
China has lifted a billion people out of poverty in a few decades - compare that with india or south africa or anywhere else

China is also authoritarian, and intolerant and brutal towards dissenters especially from some minorities ...but to suggest that the chinese system has been *only* harmful to its people is simplistic