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@timbray @bitsavers @bitsplusatoms @eschaton Oh, I am under no illusions. Personally I have worked in all kinds of places with various degrees of success in this area. For a public example for where it's gone really bad just look at the UK Covid Excel debacle.

I'm just acknowledging that IT tyranny and unmanaged spreadsheet Wild West are both extreme and harmful, and I'm saying that a smart company creates anywhere from a token effort to an excellent control framework to achieve the right balance.

The place I'm currently at seems to have the right balance so far (I've been here for four years). People aren't hiding things from IT and we cooperate to formalize processes where it's helpful to the people performing the work.