> I chose the phrase "Nazi bar" for a reason, web search it

Yeah, I know what you're referring to and I dispute its relevance. The fediverse is not a bar, and again: if there are SO many nazis that they can drown out the entire fediverse, you've got a bigger problem on your hands than a mere moderation problem.

>. You're taking an ideological position, not a situational one.

> Which is just the inverse of the equally impractical 'permission required from admin before federation' position.

:yes:

> reason to make everyone in the verse manually block every spammer.

note the slight of hand where 'spam' replaced what we were actually talking about

>. Not when admins can block them for everyone on the server, and block entire domains that harbour their accounts.

One persons spam is another persons viagra bill. What makes it spam is whether the person wants to receive it or not. But we're not talking about spam.

> By the same token, there's no sensible reason to make everyone who speaks up for reproductive liberty, manually block the mouthbreathers that react to that with slurs and threats.

Now we're talking about reproductive liberty all of a sudden?

Slurs and threats are part of human communication. If you're getting them it means you're pissing someone off. What you're really against is people disagreeing with eachother, and in particular people disagreeing with you.

> Which means the right to exclude spammers or mouthbreathers from everyone else's servers, and Nazis from your bar.

Except the fediverse is not a bar, and in practice what this means is massive blocklists of the politically unpopular. @nazi_accusations shows exactly what this argument is used for: for repressing *everyone* left and right.