@NecroHole @graf @Crux_Invictus @kaia The lvl4 ICW? Those are meant to work In Conjunction With a IIIA or IIIA+, so they're not just a standalone plate that you can throw in a carrier by itself. A lot of their stuff works like this, and I think their carriers have a degree of protection built in as well, so you have to check the description to make sure you're getting the protection you expect.