@p @mischievoustomato @mmmfeet @shedinja
Putin's Russia wanted to rebuild the USSR from day one, and you don't rebuild an ideological empire the second time sans the ideology. Every ex-USSR country to join NATO was better off for it.

Russia even has its own NATO, the CTSO; they'd be advancing on us if they could, except half of them are supporting Ukraine. For real. And that "Promise we would not move east" is about as true as the other things Russians say.

Without going on too much, China has a massive food trade defecit; they need grain.
Giving the corrupt shithole that is Ukraine, to Russia, is a massive L for the west, not even considering the actual humans that live there and deserve, like all human begins, unironically, to live in freedom, or at least a freer place than Putin's Russia.

I could go on all day about American imperialiam, our damaged political systems, failing middle class, etc, but we don't have to be perfect to be better than a mobsterstate.

There is a reason everyone, even Russia's "Allies", hates them.
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