@ageha @Humpleupagus @condret I don't want to extend the thread into what is capitalism really but my priors are that I think trade and needing fungible units of account are completely, totally unavoidable. money is a technology though and it has a social shape and that shape has externalities so I reject capitalism as the ultimate organizing force for society but it is a component and we have to have things in place to minimize the bad aspects.