@rher @Dan_Hulson @Eiswald @billy_hughes it was paradox's classical era grand strategy game that they abandoned after patching a few times cuz nobdoy was buying it, it's actually fun and pretty decent it needed more work, now modders taking over hte game to make it good, basicly imperator is what's gonna happen to vic3 sooner or later i think they made a subpar game and tried to fix it after launch with patches by reworking it, then gave up becuase it was costing them more than they made, and instead just made more hoi4 and eu4 expansion packs.