@victor @jeremiah Yeah, it reminds me of the first part of the Hackers book. (Fun book.) Basically, there was a model railroad club (this was the 50s), and there were two types of guy in it: there were the EE guys that spent all their time dicking around with wires and making primitive animatronics happen, and there were the other guys that spent all their time painting eyebrows on the tiny men inside their hand-carved, period-accurate train cars, and the groups experienced a lot of friction until the EE guys fucked off to go poke at this new thing in the basement, a computer. So there are the guys collecting QSL cards and name-dropping gear, and those guys are boring as shit, but the people talking radio engineering and math, that's interesting.