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@Polychrome @mattcen @bilboed @pbone It's still a way higher entry barrier for non-tech affine users.
The services being spread out over different webapps is already too much for most people.

They need everything in one simple to use *app* that works exactly the same on desktop, mobile (and web) with one single account.

Matrix is already a lot better in that but there's still some things missing to really make it a fully viable alternative to Discord.
But IRC just isn't one at all nowadays.