@essjay @goatsarah @Pollik Talking of yoghurt pots and string (bean cans and string in my day), Press for Change’s email list server was, for a while, run on 2400 baud dialup from Claire McNab’s house in Bradford. That was after our first server (on a server at a company in Australia) went tits up. So, for a while our news and forum lists depended on Claire hitting dialup several times a day. Oddly I never really noticed the difference.