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> Also higher up in the thread someone said that the BSD's are proprietary and that just riled me up.

Because they are, get over it and accept it, it's the truth. Just like Linux upstream is also nonfree, so is *BSD. And if you think no licensing statement makes it public domain, I got bad news for you, the Berne convention disagrees, everything is all rights reserved by default unless stated otherwise almost everywhere.