Survival is Insufficient@socketwench Yes. I once met a pair of dogs who barked like crazy at falling leaves. The person just bought a shock training collar and shocked them whenever they did. They stopped barking at leaves but only because they became terrified of leaves falling and would freeze and tremble every time they saw them, whether they had the collar on or not. So sad. The owner was happy about it because she just wanted silence. So, so sad.
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