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@film_girl Opus & Vorbis "were" "bad quality?" Opus has completely taken over for anything real time - Discord & *many* communication apps have adopted Opus. Vorbis is used by Spotify. I don't know who "everyone smart" is, maybe I'm just an idiot

AV1 is winning largely because it is Google's baby. Development of the reference encoder isn't "open" at all, and their monopolistic influence has caused problems for competing codecs (like JXL for images, which is superior to AVIF) because of Chromium