@gat @admin @GLObalMARinePR @KarlDahl @Ottovonshitpost I always kinda felt like Ruger was design and function, when S&W was being "this is a display case quality, every surface polished with optional engraving" kinda ? Yea... All makes sense now, I can see it in thousands of images of those two in years gone buy I held them side by side and said "yea, Ruger's fine, more a glovebox, you know it will work gun, I'd feel shitty throwing that pretty S&W in a toolbox, glovebox, backpack..." I don't know how I never thought about why the two were like that. Thanks @gat that's an epic explanation of Ruger's history.