@cee @xianc78 @ryo Yeah, I am definitely not that. Morality is not something that humans decide. It's out there, and like the physical laws of the universe, bad things tend to happen when we don't take it into consideration. If you walk off a cliff, you fall and probably die. If you disregard moral law, then you suffer the consequences of that. And on a mass scale, you have a world like this one. It's a real thing that exists whether people ignore it or not.