@djsumdog @ryo that's very valiant of u @p is nice enough to send me stuff to explain intricacies when I'm not sure about stuff and a lot of other people do too but it really does HAVE to be in depth if u want to reach a full filling guide. Coding seems to have so many moving parts that u have to be super in depth otherwise its useless. Not naming off one function or some small part of the process would cripple someone who wasn't tech literate on a grand scale, but for some one who is its laughable. U know its just a couple button taps but the learning curve seems supper steep at the start and then it just falls straight off a cliff and nose dives. U just have to hit the point of titration and that's the 3 years I'm assuming one needs minimum.