@xianc78 @ryo @Terry @fluffy I like the No Agenda podcast take .. the two of them are estimating the jabs probably kill 1% ~ 3%. A friend of mine who was the editor of several newspapers/magazines on the West cost thinks the shots probably killed more people than COVID.

That's probably about right. The narrative is going to change greatly soon too .. at least in the US the democrats are likely going to blame Trump/Warp Speed .. but they have to save face, so the running theory is going to be "Well those shots were bad .. but these new ones .. we had time to make these right .. we're better .. Orange Man still bad" .. I think that's retarded and stupid .. there's not way-- oh wait .. we are living in the dumbest fucking times. So yea ... that's probably going to happen.

Fertility rates have been on a steady decline for decades, so it will be impossible to pin that to these shots ... but I do think we'll see declines there as well and people will be in collective denial about it.