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@schalken i try to give marxists the benefit of the doubt, that's also why i said i didn't expect said podcasters to be that authoritarian.

that being said, i don't find what you said very reassuring. like that the first thing you say about state violence is giving potential uses. what does destroying property and wage labour entail? what are you willing to do to people to make them not engage in these things? what would go too far?