@newt @echo your rhetoric is incredibly cruel but the example of pets makes another point for me. domesticated livestock are treated far worse than domesticated pets. confined in very tight spaces, often with unnecessary painful surgical procedures performed on them (while surgeries like declawing are now illegal), with their young taken and the males among them often murdered, and finally killed for their meat. they live lives of exploitation and pain, unlike domestic pets who are pampered to a degree. there is no logical difference underlying the disparate treatment between cows and pigs and cats and dogs. its just what humans have decided is okay.