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@david_chisnall @futurebird But also, I've seen a lot of less experienced programmers, before vibe coding was possible, just write thousands of lines of code for something that could be a hundred because no one teaches them the value of parsimony or requires the abstract/mathematical/architectural sophistication of them to really understand what's going on at a low level.

I know this is very Old Woman Yells At Clouds, but part of why even non-AI-generated code ends up being pointless is that someone decided Moore's Law was an excuse to not teach what was going on under the hood. I can't even have a conversation about how why things are bad with juniors sometimes because they aren't asked to think that way. Not ALL of them, by any means. But a lot.

Ah well. Since nobody can afford RAM anymore anyway, people will either run slop code in the cloud no one can debug, use, or maintain, or learn the hard way.

I despair.