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@giorgiopasqualini @Tutanota @PaintedDurian They're not genuine privacy products despite how they're marketed. These are for-profit companies using privacy as a branding/marketing focus to earn money because without it they'd have little reason to justify the devices existing. Reality is that they're providing worse privacy than Apple and dramatically worse security. They're not doing the bare minimum of providing standard privacy/security patches/protections let alone making hardened devices.