@mint @Inginsub This i think, not the before. The only mistake I made was not upgrading the rest of the system. A bunch of programs all wanted 76, but I had 78 iirc. I tried copying 78 to 76 in /usr/lib/ to see if the part of the library it wanted would still work but no cigar. Rolling release ensures every day is a troubleshooting/learning/headache day.