@jeffcliff @gcvsa You're misinterpreting what we said. Purism's devices have closed source, proprietary hardware with closed source, proprietary firmware. The firmware is stored on the hardware components and loaded each boot from that storage. The OS not being involved in loading it doesn't make it somehow not exist. It doesn't make it any less important. It does mean the closed source firmware on Purism's devices is harder to inspect and the approach has lower security than the OS loading it.