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@thomasfuchs Anecdotally, I've seen plenty of non-programmers say things like "I'm not a programmer, so I used ChatGPT to help whip up this python script". Dozens of hardware youtubers use it for this specific reason.

Meanwhile, the programmers aren't using it because they yearn for simpler times; we're in the simpler times. They're using them to do drudge work. Porting and decompilation projects have seen dramatic improvements, for example.

My original point was about vibe coders being just like the other art, music and writing slop peddlers. They don't see this as another tool, they want it to be a replacement for those pesky programmers/artists/musicians/writers who dared to charge money for something they couldn't do themselves.