@feld you should have seen the software engineer's face when I told him the dump in San Mateo shipped all their trash to China. He guffawed and called me an idiot. Then I asked him what he thinks they do with it and he said there's a landfill.

I asked him how there's a landfill on the coast of the san francisco bay where a 2 inch hole in the ground pools with seawater and his face melted into this look of profound and terrible realization before blanking like he had just experienced a hard reset