@ryo @charliebrownau @coin @furgar Devuan is just Debian but better. But it still suffers from Debian retardation. For instance, how do I generate locales on Devuan? I don't know how to do it anymore, because where the fuck is locale-gen? Debian removed the tool that does it, and presumably replaced it with systemd for no reason, and like they are trying to taunt the user, they didn't change the documentation. The man page for locale-gen is still even there. Meanwhile, Devuan doesn't have it either because they just did exactly what Debian did, so how the fuck do you do it? And of course, it still has most systemd components, but that's almost all of them.

There are no usable Linux distributions, they are all shit. The closest to good is Arch. It has systemd. Also, it's a rolling-release distribution, so updating is a pain, especially if you build a few packages by getting PKGBUILDs with asp and then editing them, and then building with makepkg, and don't want to be redoing that all the time because it takes for fucking ever.

Anyway, I tried to look up a distribution to recommend to beginners, because I can't recommend a BSD for them, the hardware compatibility is not ideal, and they are just not made for people that don't know what they're doing. All the "beginner" distributions suck. I considered Devuan, and just making a tutorial to go with the recommendation, but again, I don't even know how to do basic shit anymore because they kept removing all the basic tools over the years. And even if I figure it out and teach it, it will be different in every other distribution.

One that I considered as well was antiX, but what was the first thing that I saw when I opened their website? "Proudly anti-fascist", which means "proudly Antifa" in clownworldspeak. How can I recommend that? People will be turned off immediately. So, what the fuck do I do when people ask for recomendations? I read reviews of all the major ones and saw really fucked up shit in all of them, and the ones that don't have that problem are either not for beginners or at all, or are Devuan.

Maybe my answer at this point should be "just use Windows, it's all fucked". Or to just tell them to pirate and run fucking ArcaOS, the currently active distribution of OS/2, and the successor of eComStation. I see no option other than Windows or some business OS from the fucking 90s with some security through obscurity.