@Elliptica @qwerty Especially a debate like this where he doesn't get to use academic phrasing and academic frameworks to obscure his general lack of a point other than that "good is good and evil is evil (I will define neither good nor evil)."

A bunch of very direct students are going to hear his jargon and just go "Okay, so what do you believe?" To which, Jordan can only go "What do any of us belief? And what is belief?" Which is pretty much par for the course in modern philosophical discourse. A lot of vague pontificating, no conclusions.