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   Børge (forteller@tutoteket.no)'s status on Thursday, 29-Dec-2022 19:18:56 JST Børge

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   • thorsepus

   @thorsepus Letting them dominate the discourse by giving them exactly what they want is having a discourse controlled by them, though

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     thorsepus (thorsepus@metalhead.club)'s status on Thursday, 29-Dec-2022 19:18:57 JST thorsepus

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     That being said, we can't base everything we say and do on how the wishes and needs of the worst people. We can't have a public discourse that's in essence controlled by fascists and grifters.

     We can't give in to the "centrists" that say that we drive people to the right if we accurately describe what they say or do as fascism or grifts.

     It's just valuable to understand how the grift works.

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     thorsepus (thorsepus@metalhead.club)'s status on Thursday, 29-Dec-2022 19:18:58 JST thorsepus

     I think Vaush described the Tate thing best. He's like an email scam. Deliberately made so bad that everyone with half a brain are repelled, only the true marks remain. And they love shit like the Thunberg beef. She didn't in any way own him, she just increased his standing with his marks.