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   Rasmus Fleischer (rasmusfleischer@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2022 08:40:29 JST Rasmus Fleischer

   "Eine Reise in die Welt der Reichsbürger" was a pretty interesting podcast episode: https://pca.st/episode/11226d1c-8230-4baf-9476-be9b67154305
   I noted how a couple of time they describe the Reichsbürger as "Souveränisten", a concept I have not really encountered in other languages, and also in German only used by quite few writers, it seems. Brief introduction here: https://www.bpb.de/shop/zeitschriften/apuz/verschwoerungstheorien-2021/339286/reichsbuerger-und-souveraenismus/
   "Conspiracist sovereignism" – the worldview of the Reichsbürger, the "sovereign citizens" in the US and possible more weird groups yet to surface – is not really fascism, though it is clearly related. Specifically, it should be understood as a bizarre ideological reaction to a very real crisis of political sovereignty.

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     Brian Holmes (bh@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2022 14:15:23 JST Brian Holmes

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     @rasmusfleischer Sovereigntism, or "souverainisme," has been a concept in mainstream French political debate since the 1990s at least. On the left it refers to the attempt to assert democratic control over the national political economy, in the face of transnational forcess of various sorts (big corporations, EU, etc). Although the concept is increasingly used by and identified with nationalist right-wing groups, I reckon we all ignore it at our peril. Sovereigntism can clearly turn into fascism. But it is, at least to some degree, a return of the repressed - where what has been repressed is simply democracy.
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereigntism

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     Rasmus Fleischer (rasmusfleischer@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2022 23:11:08 JST Rasmus Fleischer

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     • Brian Holmes

     @bh I agree, but I'm not sure if the broader French concept is to be regarded as the same as the more recent, narrower concept in German. I note that Jan Rathje – the scholar featured in the podcast – seems to regard "souveränismus" as a neologism coined by sociologist Susann Bischof. https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/binaries/content/assets/customsites/perspectives-on-terrorism/2022/issue-6/pot-xvi-6-a5-rathe.pdf

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     Brian Holmes (bh@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-2022 00:20:45 JST Brian Holmes

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     @rasmusfleischer Yeah, I just lived in France while that word was in widespread use, so I thought you would be interested. I think globalization has produced a wide range of pushbacks. Under these conditions, the concept of sovereignty, and the idea of recovering sovereignty, is gonna keep coming to the surface under different forms. The Reichsburger episode is a symptom of a broader malady. So is Brexit, etc.

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     Rasmus Fleischer (rasmusfleischer@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-2022 00:36:47 JST Rasmus Fleischer

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     • Brian Holmes

     @bh That's on spot. I do think that we have only seen the beginning of something that can take very different and very ugly forms, and that it is important to grasp the bigger picture within the context of a crisis theory.

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     Brian Holmes (bh@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Dec-2022 04:29:02 JST Brian Holmes

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     @rasmusfleischer over the upcoming months I will make some posts with the #crisistheory tag. If you find or come up with the missing theory I am totally interested.