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   Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 21:34:08 JST Evan Prodromou

   Is there a word for a point of view that you only see the rebuttals to?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 21:39:20 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Kyle Hasselbacher

     @kyleha

     No, a straw man is an argument intentionally constructed to be weaker than the opponent's actual argument.

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man?wprov=sfla1

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     Kyle Hasselbacher (kyleha@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 21:39:21 JST Kyle Hasselbacher

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     @evan Straw man.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 21:42:47 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Kyle Hasselbacher

     @kyleha I'm talking about a text issue. An example would be Irenaeus's "Against Heresies", which rebuts a lot of Gnostic beliefs and is the only remaining record of many of those beliefs.

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_Heresies_%28Irenaeus%29?wprov=sfla1

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 21:50:35 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • mpjgregoire

     @mpjgregoire not strawman, not extreme minority view.

     I think it's a pretty common phenomenon in classics. For example, philosophers whose work is only known because their detractors' books are still read.

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     mpjgregoire@mamot.fr's status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 21:50:36 JST mpjgregoire

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     @evan Strawman argument? Extreme minority view?

     Epistemic bubble?

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     daaitoulaam (daaitoulaam@mastodon.lol)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 23:51:33 JST daaitoulaam

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     @evan
     ?strawman?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 23:51:33 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • daaitoulaam

     @daaitoulaam https://prodromou.pub/@evan/109546038608543793

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 00:50:30 JST Evan Prodromou

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     I've seen this situation a few times on the fediverse while I've been here.

     Right now, I'm seeing a lot of rebuttals to concerns about commercial postings on the fediverse. I haven't seen anyone express those concerns; just the rebuttals.

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     Marc with a C (marcwithac@universeodon.com)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 01:10:25 JST Marc with a C

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     @evan agreed.
     Reminds me of how folks keep saying “you can’t say ‘Merry Christmas’ anymore!!” … like, no one is saying you can’t, people. Though, *if it’s all you ever say/post* you might annoy a few folks ;)

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 01:10:25 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Marc with a C

     @marcwithac yes, most of Fox News is this phenomenon.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 01:20:37 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • manu chander (he/him)

     @profchander obvious when you think about it, tysm

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     manu chander (he/him) (profchander@social.bigger6.com)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 01:20:39 JST manu chander (he/him)

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     @evan buttals

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 01:21:36 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Cornelia Östreich

     @conny_asf_ggg good point! I think the culture of the Celts of western Europe as filtered through the written records of the Greeks and Romans is another example.

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     Cornelia Östreich (conny_asf_ggg@bildung.social)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Dec-2022 01:21:37 JST Cornelia Östreich

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     @evan "Native" religions, in the eyes of the colonists' churches.
     Witches or "wise women" of the Late Middle Ages.