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   翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 17:05:53 JST 翠星石

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   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
   @lanodan All build systems for Java are hot garbage and don't work most of the time.
   Eclipse is okay for writing Java, but good luck using it to compile Java.
   
   Have my superior makefile that just works.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 17:05:57 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • jan Anja :toki:
     @cybertailor Yeah but not exactly surprising in the Java ecosystem.
     
     (If it would be just me I would ban Eclipse kind of IDEs, leaving only true Integration Development Environment, like say Plan9 acme and maybe emacs)
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     jan Anja :toki: (cybertailor@deadinsi.de)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 17:05:58 JST jan Anja :toki:

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

     @lanodan using IDE as a build system is something Visual Studio tier

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 17:05:59 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     So I land on something using the Eclipse IDE for building (what is a buildsystem?) and realize there's no source recipe in gentoo, only binary-based ones in overlays.
     
     - binary package in NixOS, AUR, VoidLinux, …
     - removed from Debian years ago
     - fedora removed it a bit more than a year ago as it failed to build
     - OpenSUSE seems to be building it from source, noticeably several versions behind and with a bunch of patches (including one for a CVE)
     - Same for FreshPorts (FreeBSD) but without patches ⚠
     - Massively outdated in pkgsrc
     
     Absolute state of ruin there, it's dead to me.