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   Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Saturday, 10-Dec-2022 08:25:19 JST Alexandre Oliva

   • CyberSpook??
   all the pseudoarguments to sweep gnu, free software and the struggle for software freedom under the carpet are excuses to rationalize taking an ethically bankrupt position to align with aggressors rather than with the resistance.
   evidence: when one pseudoargument is debunked, another pseudoargument takes its place to sustain the same position.
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     Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 07:55:05 JST Alexandre Oliva

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     • CyberSpook??
     sorry it took me so long to get to your question that you seem to have felt a need to resend it. bluntly, it's the wrong question. the GNU system is a concept, not a collection of software components. the GNU project even selected some non-GNU components to be part of the GNU system, because they were already freedom-respecting, so there was no reason to replace them. the defining feature of GNU is that it's an operating system made with the explicit purpose of enabling users to do their computing in freedom. it set out to do so starting from a unix system and replacing proprietary components one by one. when it was nearly there, already in wide and preferred use on top of various unix systems, someone else implemented the last major missing piece, and a while later released it as freedom-respecting software. though this last component wasn't made sharing the purpose of gnu, nor to be part of the gnu project, it was designed and implemented to work with gnu and so, once it became freedom-respecting, it was thus a good fit in a gnu system. (to be continued)
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     CyberSpook?? (cyberspook@soc.redeyes.site)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 07:55:07 JST CyberSpook??

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     • CyberSpook??
     @lxo BTW, I wanted to ask: what is the most fundamental component that distinguishes a GNU+Linux system from non-GNU Linux-based systems? Is it glibc? Is it coreutils? Because Void is based on musl libc but has coreutils while it is also possible to replace coreutils with Busybox (though I haven't seen any distro that did that while keeping glibc). What component makes GNU+Linux GNU+Linux? And how much does a C library affect the system? And how do you personally call GNU-like Linux-based systems?
     翠星石 repeated this.
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     CyberSpook?? (cyberspook@soc.redeyes.site)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 07:55:08 JST CyberSpook??

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     It seems like they more or less pick the pseudoarguments from the same list and cycle between them. Everything those who oppose the name say was already addressed by Stallman in one form or another.