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    Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 07:48:42 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason

    This gives me anxiety. https://www.minds.com/minds/blog/minds-nostr-and-the-future-of-decentralized-social-networkin-1445110266495766533

    In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 07:48:42 JST from gleasonator.com permalink

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      Minds, Nostr and the future of decentralized social networking
      from @minds
      Throughout the history of Minds, it has been our mission to decentralize as much as possible while maintaining the user experience that peop...
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:00:15 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • Compound Fraxure

      @CompoundFraxure Nostr and ActivityPub are basically the same thing architected a bit differently but incompatible for no reason.

      I don’t think they’ll succeed in making Nostr overtake the Fediverse, but they will succeed in fragmenting the ecosystem.

      There’s no problem Nostr solves that couldn’t be solved in ActivityPub.

      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:00:15 JST permalink
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      Compound Fraxure (compoundfraxure@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:00:18 JST Compound Fraxure Compound Fraxure
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      @alex Why?
      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:00:18 JST permalink
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      Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:02:16 JST Token Token
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      @alex I'm kinda angry at the Minds guys for backing away from ActivityPub after promising for so long to join the Fediverse.
      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:02:16 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:03:15 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • Token

      @coin Me too. And at a time when activity on the Fediverse is at AN ALL TIME HIGH - “lol we’ll build our own protocol incompatible on purpose”

      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:03:15 JST permalink
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      Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:06:27 JST Token Token
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      @alex Maybe this paragraph should make us optimistic about fragmentation?
      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:06:27 JST permalink

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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:06:27 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • Token

      @coin I think most likely Minds will just die. Adopting Nostr at this point is an attempt to save it, but a dumb one.

      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:06:27 JST permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:09:19 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Token
      What do you think their motivations for doing that were?
      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:09:19 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:09:19 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • Fediverse Contractor
      • Token

      @bot @coin Because they think account portability matters more than anything else, and because the protocol is “simple” (aka not feature complete) and well-documented unlike the Wild West of ActivityPub.

      I think it was genuinely easier to implement. So we’re going to have to deal with Nostr in the ActivityPub world. But I wish the effort were spent towards making AP do the thing we want it to do instead.

      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:09:19 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:10:26 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • Token

      @coin I already tried. I even wrote code for them they ignored and never merged instead of just… giving me a review or something.

      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:10:26 JST permalink
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      Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:10:27 JST Token Token
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      @alex Well you know it more than everyone since you are the guy who helped them at least lay the groundwork with federation. They just went "nah we'll go that way instead"
      So dumb...

      Do you think you can make an appeal to them to scrap NOSTR and go with AP again? Talk to them directly?
      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:10:27 JST permalink
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      King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:28:13 JST King Henry VIII King Henry VIII
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      • Token
      Expected from the Tim Pool Network
      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:28:13 JST permalink
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      william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:28:48 JST william.maggos william.maggos
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      • Token

      @alex @coin

      what really sucks is he's been on JRE twice and he seems to have a lot of relationships with other notable folks. his bullshit has slowed this evolution and may still be having that effect. there's so many people in the lefty and libertarian dissident space that only talk about the fedi/mastodon, if they do, to mock it.

      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:28:48 JST permalink
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      midway (midway@soapbox.midwaytrades.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:29:10 JST midway midway
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      • Token
      You can see a protocol finally get hot (even if the outside world still thinks it’s all Mastodon, who cares, most users don’t know how tech actually works), and you pick another one that isn’t hot?

      Life tough. It’s even tougher when you’re stupid.
      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:29:10 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:32:03 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • Fediverse Contractor
      • Token
      • cjd

      @cjd @coin @bot Yes, it fixes the dependency on DNS - at the cost of terrible user experience.

      I expect when I move from my laptop to my phone that I can see the same content. But that’s not true in Nostr world.

      We have to build upon Nostr until it essentially becomes ActivityPub, and at that point we have to ask why we did so much work instead of just adopting DIDs and account portability on the Fediverse - a problem which @silverpill has already solved btw.

      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:32:03 JST permalink
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      cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:32:04 JST cjd cjd
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      • Fediverse Contractor
      • Token
      @alex @coin @bot

      Does it fix dependency on DNS and gossip around network partitions?

      If not then its a bad joke.
      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:32:04 JST permalink
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      King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:43:12 JST King Henry VIII King Henry VIII
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      • Fediverse Contractor
      • Token
      • cjd
      Maybe they’ll adopt Revolver, which is very real and totally not made up.
      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:43:12 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:43:12 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • Fediverse Contractor
      • Token
      • cjd
      • King Henry VIII

      @GoodPerson @coin @silverpill @cjd @bot Yeah dude it’s built in C and uses IPFS, has no unit tests (automated testing is bad) and every variable is a single letter and there’s basically no whitespace. Sounds maintainable.

      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 08:43:12 JST permalink
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      Wang Master 5000 (look@muh.wang)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-2022 09:32:31 JST Wang Master 5000 Wang Master 5000
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      • Fediverse Contractor
      • Token
      • cjd
      • King Henry VIII
      If u write code no one else can understand, that means ur smurt.
      In conversation Friday, 02-Dec-2022 09:32:31 JST permalink
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