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   cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:46:01 JST cjd
   The EU wants to get to a point of peace with Russia because they know that America is not going to continue to bankroll this war, and they can't afford it.
   
   Unfortunately for them, Russia has them bent over a barrel, so their demands are gonna be rich.
   
   The US is tapped out, so no help to come from that hemisphere.
   
   The only hope for the EU is that China will come in with some kind of a bailout program because they don't want to see Russia conquer Europe and then be able to form a Eurasian hegemony that will then proceed to roll China...
   
   But bailout without restructuring is just extending the bad practices, and Europe needs to cut spending. Unfortunately "stop spending money you don't have" is never a vote-winner, so herein lies a challenge.
   
   But in that regard, Europe has a really surprising opportunity because the EU and ECB are kind of autocratic, so if China will underwrite the Euro, they can be given partial control over monetary policy, so that the failures will be the bad banks rather than the entire currency.
   
   But the problem that remains is the individual countries. The French and Italians don't understand financial markets, they understand that you vote for presidents who do or don't give you nice stuff. The reality is more like "Vote for whoever you want, but if they are not financially sound, you get flogged by the bond market".
   
   It's like the scene in Indiana Jones: Voters decide which cup to drink from, and the bond market says whether they chose wisely, or not.
   
   RT: https://merovingian.club/users/vexo/statuses/117140832217206212
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:45:56 JST cjd

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     • Zeb 摆烂
     That "depreciating currency" stuff is Keynsian nonsense.
     
     Depreciating currency is just another way of saying you're more competitive when your people are poorer. You can also accomplish the same goal by importing millions of low wage workers to bid down salaries.
     
     And in the end, there's no reason to actually leave the Euro, unless, you want to print a fuckton of money and hyper-inflate. The Euro isn't doing anything that's really actually bad.
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     Zeb 摆烂 (zeb@merovingian.club)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:45:57 JST Zeb 摆烂

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     95% it will simply be option 1 until collapse.

     Option 6 could work if countries work trade deals with other countries to be effective AFTER they leave the euro. Big countries like France, Italy and Spain are able to pull this off.
     They will have a competitive advantage of the new depreciating currency where their economy become cheaper. It won't be an easy transition at all but it's an effective way of taking the diet and exercise pill but with the benefit of having more independence.

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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:45:58 JST cjd

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     • Zeb 摆烂
     There's five things a country can do:
     
     1. Stay in the Euro, keep paying creditors, keep borrowing and pretending (status quo)
     
     2. Stay in the Euro, keep paying creditors, stop irrational spending (the "diet and exercise" answer because it works the best but nobody ever does it)
     
     3. Stay in the Euro, default on debts, irrational spending stops by force because nobody will lend you any more money. Government is fucked, but the country keeps functioning.
     
     4. Leave the Euro, keep paying creditors, keep borrowing and pretending (hyperinflation 💀 )
     
     5. Leave the Euro, keep paying creditors, stop irrational spending (haha nobody gonna do that shit, nice try)
     
     6. Leave the Euro, default on debts... Become financially very isolated, hard to convince anyone to accept your money on foreign exchange markets, imports become challenging, foreign investment scared, probably 💀
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:45:59 JST cjd

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     • Zeb 摆烂
     Also, if the French bonds go berserk, going back to their old currency doesn't make those bonds go away. Telling the creditors to pound sand is a strategy, but then nobody will lend them anything at all. Any European country that talks about going back to their old currency, is PROBABLY going to print money and dump it on their populous, in order to get EUR, or USD, or whatever is the currency their actual bonds are denominated in, and pay them.
     
     That every full on hyperinflation scenario in the past century has been exactly that dynamic.
     
     So in this regard, EUR is protecting the people from themselves. It'd be better if it was XAU but that's a digression...
     
     The other problem with exiting the EU is then each state is gonna get treated like some South American joke country by Russia, China, etc. And nobody wants to end up negotiating like that.
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     Zeb 摆烂 (zeb@merovingian.club)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:46:00 JST Zeb 摆烂

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     Realistically, I see the best play of for Europe is to have a crisis, for instance, French bonds go beserk so they decide, along with the Italians, to get out of the EU - this mean they go bakc to their old currencies and they tell all their creditors to go fuck themselves.

     With this new development, several countries go to Russia and China to make trade deals with them as they also want to get out of the EU, applying to BRICS without the danger of a NATO intervention in their country.

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     Geist (geistigbehindert@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:49:51 JST Geist

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     @cjd @Zeb @ergo people do bully here for pretty much any country. And the most adamant western country haters do unironically then list shitholes like western Sahara as good countries. Because they like... Anarchy? I'm still not sure what that retard meant by that. If I notice somebody is retarded I just respond retarded back. Saves a lot of time
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:49:51 JST cjd

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     • Geist
     I don't think he's actually that dumb, it's just bad faith argumentation - and that kinda pisses me off, especially because there's people that don't know they're not in an honest debate and they get scammed into thinking they're wrong.
     
     Usually OnHere is clean of that horseshit so when someone brings it around, I like to do my part to make them feel extra unwelcome.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:49:52 JST cjd

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     • ergo
     Who are you even trying to convince here?
     
     Anyone with two braincells to rub together can see the only reason you'd be so evasive about what country you're in is because it's way more of a shithole than the worst places in Europe.
     
     Or else it's Israel and you're afraid they're gonna bully you.
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     ergo (ergo@pleroma.ergofreeman.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:49:54 JST ergo

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     • Zeb 摆烂
     @cjd @Zeb meh you are actually retarded
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:49:55 JST cjd

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     • ergo
     blah blah blah blah blah where you live?
     
     Where's this place that's so much better than Europe?
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     ergo (ergo@pleroma.ergofreeman.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:49:56 JST ergo

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     • Zeb 摆烂
     @cjd @Zeb stop putting words in my mouth and listen to what I am actually saying.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:49:57 JST cjd

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     • ergo
     I get it, you think Europe is so trashed that it might as well be wiped off the map - but where do YOU live?
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     ergo (ergo@pleroma.ergofreeman.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:49:58 JST ergo

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     • Zeb 摆烂
     @cjd @Zeb I said European states, you were talking about the debt of European states as if it mattered, is like talking about India owing money to China, who cares.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:49:59 JST cjd

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     If you're gonna claim that Europe is lost and it doesn't matter if it collapses, and yet you can't point to one single county that's in better condition - WTF is your point?
     
     > The least shitty place on earth is still shitty 😭
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     ergo (ergo@pleroma.ergofreeman.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:50:00 JST ergo

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     @cjd @Zeb Think of it like South Africa, Whites can only create their little Orania, South Africa as a state is completely lost
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     ergo (ergo@pleroma.ergofreeman.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:50:01 JST ergo

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     • Zeb 摆烂
     @cjd @Zeb Im not comparing to anything thats why I said there is no comparison.
     
     I just stated that EU states no longer belong or represent white people so whatever happens to them is irrelevant to white people.
     
     They are like businesses run by jews and niggers that employ jews and niggers. They can go bankrupt, I dont care.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:50:02 JST cjd

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     • ergo
     Where you comparing it to? An island inside your head?
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     ergo (ergo@pleroma.ergofreeman.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:50:03 JST ergo

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     • Zeb 摆烂
     @cjd @Zeb
     
     why are autistic people always like this
     
     they always have a parallel conversation in their head and project it unto you
     
     I never said anything about the US
     
     Plus numbers you find online about %s are fake
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:50:04 JST cjd

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     • ergo
     I have some bad news for you.
     
     The HIGHEST US state is 75% white births.
     The LOWEST European state is 65% white births.
     
     Most of the US is <50
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     ergo (ergo@pleroma.ergofreeman.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:50:05 JST ergo

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     • Zeb 摆烂
     @cjd @Zeb there is no comparison, you are talking about EU states and their economy, they are mostly nonwhites, I dont care if they collapse or if they tax niggers thrice or whatever, it's irrelevant.
     
     White people are no longer attached to those states, I only care what happens to white people of good genetic quality.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:50:06 JST cjd

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     • ergo
     Compared to where? Certainly you're not gonna suggest the US is better...
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     ergo (ergo@pleroma.ergofreeman.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Aug-2026 20:50:08 JST ergo

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     • Zeb 摆烂
     @cjd @Zeb eho gives a fuck, all EU countries are mostly nonwhites now