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Dad (noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Aug-2026 00:55:50 JST
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using ai to rewrite history? it's easier than you think -
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Dad (noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Aug-2026 00:55:49 JST
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@mangeurdenuage this is why books are still important. you can't censor or erase every single copy of a book like you often can with web pages. Another Linux Walt Alt likes this. -
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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Aug-2026 00:55:50 JST
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad This is something that took me a while to understand when in middle school a teacher said to me that wikipedia is a nice project but unlike physical literature, unless you print it yourself, definitions, events, or any truth can be overwritten by a sufficient amount of people repeating something false. -
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Dad (noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Aug-2026 01:40:28 JST
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@sim @mangeurdenuage if I had money, I'd hire some spergs to scan them page by page and leave the book intact. also, fuck copyright. -
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sim@shitposter.world's status on Monday, 10-Aug-2026 01:40:29 JST
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad @mangeurdenuage I'm not sure on the reason behind it but one company has done this to sell it onto AI or something. The machine breaks the spines. Then they have to get rid of the books, someone said it was due to copyright but I don't know. They seemed to think that people wouldn't care about them destroying rare books. -
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sim@shitposter.world's status on Monday, 10-Aug-2026 01:40:30 JST
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@mangeurdenuage @noyoushutthefuckupdad Having a machine destroying rare books so that AI can copy it is a huge problem to me. Not to mention that AI has been known to make shit up rather than saying it doesn't know the answer.
It makes me wonder about the data it scraped from physical books which are no more. How long that data is stored and whether it is gone for good now. How this destroys our ability to keep reading a physical book because a company chose convenience with a machine over having someone write down the book or something. -
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Dad (noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Aug-2026 01:40:30 JST
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@sim @mangeurdenuage they destroy books in order to scan the pages? -
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sim@shitposter.world's status on Monday, 10-Aug-2026 01:40:31 JST
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad @mangeurdenuage Too bad we are losing millions of books for AI to copy. -
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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Aug-2026 01:40:31 JST
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To me machine learning isn't an issue in itself.
Proprietary machine learning is.
Either case their are to me nothing more than search engines.
There is a moral issue tho when it comes to data that has been taken, stolen, but that's an issue that the population worldwide has been plagued with since the smartphone was released, and even further before if you take into account PRISM in 1998~1999.
That aside, it is my opinion that non consensual scraping of information of anykind to create machine learning models is a detriment to the human species as people need to understand what is happening for their own personal development.
We as a species are not ready for any tool we do not morally understand.
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sim@shitposter.world's status on Monday, 10-Aug-2026 01:41:26 JST
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad @mangeurdenuage Yes, hopefully someone else can properly fill in the gaps of my knowledge. I just saw it going around and thought about it when you said about physical books. This all depends on us being able to look after the physical books we do have. -
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Dad (noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Aug-2026 01:41:26 JST
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@sim @mangeurdenuage I should buy a paper encyclopedia. I used to read them (and the dictionary) all the time as a kid. Another Linux Walt Alt likes this. -
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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Aug-2026 02:20:11 JST
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>like you often can with web pages.
This is why we need archive.org but torrent.
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