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   Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jun-2026 12:03:08 JST Escoffier Gab refugee
   Is it ok to do non-shitty fills these days or nah?
   
   https://youtube.com/shorts/I95dnej2FMg?
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jun-2026 12:03:06 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     • Phineas Applebutter
     Pearts great strength (imho) was how he approached the drumset. He treated it as a musical instrument in its own right. I dont think any before or since did drum 'movements' in their material the way he did. Their were faster drummers and smoother drummers but none approached the kit the way he did
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jun-2026 12:03:07 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     • Phineas Applebutter
     Heh.
     
     Ive seen several videos of Anika on the new tour. She's not bad but shes no Neil.
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     Phineas Applebutter (phineasapplebutter@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jun-2026 12:03:07 JST Phineas Applebutter

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     She's world class and I'd even argue smoother in her own setting. But, part of what drummers always loved about NP was his commitment to the parts we've all memorized. Whether we could play them or not, we know every fill by heart. I was really surprised how different the La Villa Strangiato solo fills were.
     
     My pick would've been Todd Sucherman. He's the modern big rock kit equivalent who also uses it all. I'd argue he's a bit smoother than NP, who I viewed as a little stiff in the hands, even in his prime.
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     Phineas Applebutter (phineasapplebutter@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jun-2026 12:03:08 JST Phineas Applebutter

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     Eh, Anika doesn't feel the need to do Neil's, so nah...
     
     Also, when did Paul Rudd start doing drum vids?
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     Phineas Applebutter (phineasapplebutter@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 14-Jun-2026 13:16:14 JST Phineas Applebutter

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     • JohnYoungE
     I started on drums and moved to guitar. Four limb independence is definitely a different beast than individual fingers on a hand independence.
     
     But, like any new instrument, it's fun to struggle with someone for 15 minutes, get frustrated, stop, sleep on it and find it to just be "magically" a little easier the next day. There's a ton of that in drums - especially when getting into syncopation.
     
     I was a self-taught guy who played complicated stuff -but not cleanly- for a few years before taking some college elective drum classes. Had a very cool instructor who gently got me back to basics. Worked the hand rudiments. Worked on making simple stuff feel good. I was a very serviceable drummer after that (but i switched to guitar at that point.)
     
     If you're adding drums for general band understanding and not to be "drums for life" guy, there's a world of practice in trying to be the best Phil Rudd you can be. Lotsa people can play AC/DC, but few make it pocket like PR does.
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     JohnYoungE (johnyounge@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 14-Jun-2026 13:16:15 JST JohnYoungE

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     • Phineas Applebutter
     I'm currently learning drums. I figured as a musician who already plays a lot of instruments, it would be pretty easy ... but I am finding it more challenging than I expected.