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   Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 29-May-2026 07:34:31 JST Tim Chambers

   …sure there are a lot of servers, but the collaboration between instances on things like moderation is virtually nonexistent. There is no form of federated diplomacy, or even a mental framework on how servers should interact, besides defederation when you get too annoyed with another server. Solidarity without subsidiarity is the benevolent provider of infrastructure: one big network that takes care of everyone and quietly removes their agency." 🧵 2/3

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 29-May-2026 07:34:59 JST Tim Chambers

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     🔗 https://connectedplaces.online/reports/fr164-the-pope-on-defederation/ 🧵 3/3

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     jonny (nonvenomous) (jonny@neuromatch.social)'s status on Friday, 29-May-2026 18:32:34 JST jonny (nonvenomous)

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     @tchambers @laurenshof have you administered a fedi server? we are talking about moderation all the time with different instances, it's the first thing we do when there is a moderation need. the caricature of authoritarian big servers getting in tiffs and defederating is a really poor representation of how small servers actually interact. suggesting that all fediverse instances are big brother servers that provide infrastructure without providing agency belies the existence of many volunteer-run and cooperatively managed instances.

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 29-May-2026 18:32:34 JST Tim Chambers

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     @jonny @laurenshof This was my experience across with other admins too, btw. Chating via shared hahtags, via DM's and inside IFTAS forum chats. Was not visible to outside world as much and some of it legit should NOT be. But it was going on as a constant and positive support.

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     jonny (nonvenomous) (jonny@neuromatch.social)'s status on Friday, 29-May-2026 20:16:23 JST jonny (nonvenomous)

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     @tchambers @laurenshof I hope it's clear that i am not an atproto hater at this point, and am instead a big believer of Rudy's 'crabs in a barrel' characterization - our enemies are the info giants, not each other. but i don't think that this characterization of weaknesses of the AP fediverse (of which there are many) is that useful.

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     jonny (nonvenomous) (jonny@neuromatch.social)'s status on Friday, 29-May-2026 20:16:24 JST jonny (nonvenomous)

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     @tchambers @laurenshof like having a fancy diplomacy dashboard or whatever is cool, but we already do all of that. we just talk to each other. i know the people on different instances and talk to them when we have a problem. it isn't visible but that's just because it's possible to talk about things in private without it being funneled through a relay. we talk with all our members about their reports, facilitate communication between instances when needed, etc. i can't imagine a more fragmented and libertarian system of federation than one where everyone is their own data island, to call that solidarity is a gross distortion of what that term means.

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