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    Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-May-2026 09:26:04 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell

    The “efficiency” pitch I’m describing upthread isn’t really “go faster;” it feels more like “making good things doesn’t matter, what you cared all along about doesn’t really matter, and we don’t think •you• matter.

    We always just wanted to built absolute shit, and you always tried to stop us. But now at long last we can.”

    9/

    In conversation about a month ago from hachyderm.io permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-May-2026 09:39:19 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      I’m kind of speculating here. I get off the LLM coding bus at several earlier stops:

      ⁃ The energy and water usage are an environmental disaster (so I mostly avoid it for the same reasons I try to reduce my driving).

      ⁃ The data sourcing is an ethical disaster (so I prefer to avoid it for the same reasons I try to buy fair trade products).

      ⁃ The people who profit from it at the top are largely horrible (so I’m about as interesting in debating its pros and cons at length as am I debating the work capacity of a Cybertruck).

      10/

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-May-2026 09:40:41 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      But that’s me; I don’t think my ethical concerns are shared widely enough for companies to have to be ramming AI down developers’ throats the way they are. The token quotas etc are a symptom of something large and deep.

      Maybe that post about MTBF vs MTTR helps explain it.

      /end

      In conversation about a month ago permalink
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      Andres (andres4ny@social.ridetrans.it)'s status on Saturday, 16-May-2026 19:03:36 JST Andres Andres
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      • Gildilinie Gremlin 🏳️‍⚧️

      @gildilinie @inthehands we're approaching a point where "i got me a hundred gigabytes of ram" will once again be an actual flex

      In conversation about a month ago permalink
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      Gildilinie Gremlin 🏳️‍⚧️ (gildilinie@beige.party)'s status on Saturday, 16-May-2026 19:03:38 JST Gildilinie Gremlin 🏳️‍⚧️ Gildilinie Gremlin 🏳️‍⚧️
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      @inthehands (weird al voice) your data sourcing is a disaster

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      Ryan Castellucci (they/them) :nonbinary_flag: repeated this.
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      Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 17-May-2026 01:16:28 JST Wolf480pl Wolf480pl
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      • tuban_muzuru

      @tuban_muzuru @inthehands
      The data sourcing problem isn't as simple as copyright.

      What AI companies are doing is:

      1. taking from a public resource (public websites, source code of FOSS projects, knowledge-sharing forums, etc)

      2. destroying the public resource in the process (overloading the websites, flooding FOSS projects with slop PRs, disrubting the social dynamic required for forums to work)

      3. renting you access to a worse version of the public resource they have destroyed

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      tuban_muzuru (tuban_muzuru@beige.party)'s status on Sunday, 17-May-2026 01:16:29 JST tuban_muzuru tuban_muzuru
      in reply to

      @inthehands

      The energy and water usage used to be a problem for mainframes. Watt's separate condenser in 1765 was essentially a water-cooled heat exchanger — the whole efficiency gain came from using cold water to condense steam without cooling the cylinder itself.

      So the water usage argument has been around a while longer.

      Data sourcing? You're trying to sort out which little calf and piglet went into your Weisswurst. Copyright in its current form has ruined the music industry, so let's spread the joy around

      The problem with AI is the same as the Mirror Test for animal cognition. Y'all can stop screaming at the mirror - it's just you in there.

      In conversation about a month ago permalink

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