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    da_667 (da_667@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 04-May-2026 21:53:56 JST da_667 da_667

    I'm going to say something that's been festering in my mind for a while now. In my two decades of practice in information security, I have yet to see responsible disclosure result in measurably better security posture.

    Code quality hasn't improved, patch management hasn't improved, minimum viable product hasn't improved, automated security updates, especially for IoT devices... Jesus Fucking Christ haven't improved. The cost of failure for organizations losing your data due to gross negligence has in no way improved, why should responsibility be the domain of the security researcher when nobody else is willing to share in that responsibility?

    I'm half-tempted to say if you have 0-days you might as well get paid for them than be responsible. Because even with a tilted playing field, nothing has measurably improved since I've been here and I would argue with "vibe coding" and the tech industry's view of "Let the AI handle it" that software quality is the worst it has been since the 90s. I lived through windows millennium edition. I've seen shit you wouldn't believe.

    "Hardware's fucked because we can't buy any, software is fucked because the LLMs trained by reddit and stack overflow are in charge now. You might as well fucking guess at this point."

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      da_667 (da_667@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 04-May-2026 21:54:39 JST da_667 da_667
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      Is what I said right? am I a fucking loon for having said it? I don't care. I haven't seen any improvements over the past 20 years I've been here and I'm fresh out of fucks to give when so-called professionals telling me that the way we've been doing things for so long, which has produced nothing positive so far as I have seen, should be maintained, stop questioning it.

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      da_667 (da_667@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 04-May-2026 21:54:39 JST da_667 da_667
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      nobody is held liable when breaches occur and your PII gets stolen for the fifth time in a single year.

      And then we read the inevitable report that it was a third-party managed system that was 6 months behind in patches that got popped. Or it was a risk assessment result that they said "they would get to that eventually" and never did.

      You start throwing executives in cuffs for failing to do their duty and sure as shit things would start changing.

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 04-May-2026 21:54:39 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      @da_667 I don't particularly want them in cuffs for failing to patch because it just strengthens the paternalistic forced patching bs.

      I want them in cuffs for possession of PII we never consented for them to collect or store in the first place.

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 04-May-2026 22:07:14 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      @da_667 "..that I have no choice but to trust to them.."

      This is exactly what "never consented" means.

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      da_667 (da_667@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 04-May-2026 22:07:15 JST da_667 da_667
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      @dalias I absolutely want executives in cuffs for failing to secure data that I have no choice but to trust to them, that is mostly immutable. They get paid ridiculous sums of money for the job, but there are zero consequences for that failure. and if that means an executive gets jail time for failing to patch a box, I would welcome it. At the same time, I would absolutely welcome them getting imprisoned for the collection of PII, especially biometric data.

      When I acquired my credit card in the early 2000s, I never once needed to take a picture of my license, or take a picture of myself for some credit card company to verify my identity. They tell you that the data isn't stored, but if it isn't, then why did they need it in the first place?

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      da_667 (da_667@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 04-May-2026 22:08:48 JST da_667 da_667
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      @dalias really?

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 04-May-2026 22:08:48 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      @da_667 Yes. Something handed over under duress is not consented.

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      XANTRONIX (xan@xantronix.social)'s status on Monday, 04-May-2026 22:21:06 JST XANTRONIX XANTRONIX
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      • Rich Felker

      @da_667 @dalias Imma have to agree with them on this one. When you reframe your entire life experience around these parasites as non-consensual, it really puts the anger into focus and makes it a lot easier to imagine what a better world would look like, sort of like exiting a decades-long abusive relationship.

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