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   SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Apr-2026 16:18:06 JST SuperDicq

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     @newt @wststreet @joey

     P.S. my Thinkpad Z16 is almost 2 years old now and the battery health hovers in the low 90%-ish

     I should probably check mine as well, haven't done that in a while.

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     @phnt @wststreet @joey except i didn't do it. My laptop was unplugged most of the time. The degradation amount was stupid, it went 5% in one day once. Seriously, this cannot possibly be chemistry.
     
     P.S. my Thinkpad Z16 is almost 2 years old now and the battery health hovers in the low 90%-ish.
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     @newt @wststreet @joey Dell is notorious for failing batteries after a year of being used as work laptops. My guess that being docked most of the time kills the battery, because the controller keeps charging it at around 100%.

     As a side note to OP, I had my Leninovo IdeaPad battery drop from 92% percent health to ~40% because I kept it docked for a year and limited to 60% charge max with the built in setting. One day I wanted to discharge it fully to recalibrate and it went from 30% charged to zero immediately. After doing a full discharge cycle it came back to 92% health.

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     :suya: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Apr-2026 16:18:11 JST :suya:

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     @joey @wststreet i blame the firmware, not the chemistry. Dell support forums are full of complaints about this issue.
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     Living in a tree (joey@stereophonic.space)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Apr-2026 16:18:12 JST Living in a tree

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     @newt @wststreet Maybe the Dell's battery management is sketchier? If have Li batteries are kinda sketcky too. Youbcan two of the exact same type and use them in the same way and will run strong for years after the other dies.
     
     I found this with my cameras.
     
     I'm pretty conchy with my batteries though. I always store then at 60% charge and top them up periodically. Some are 20 years old and still ok.
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     @joey @wststreet depends on the laptop, really. My previous laptop was Dell XPS and it went from 100% to high 60s in the span of just 2 years. Then I sold it.
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     Might be the newer laptop battery had degraded capacity from the start. new doesn't mean they will 100%. The batteries in this X270 are at 89% capacity after 8 years, but I bought it used so have no idea how much use/abuse the system had before I bought it. dmidecode say's DOM is 2018 so they are the original batteries.
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     Street | Train 🇷🇴 :vrchat: (wststreet@ani.work)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Apr-2026 16:18:16 JST Street | Train 🇷🇴 :vrchat:

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     Yeah that's how the discussion started. My 8+ year old laptop with no thresholds and overheating issues was at 69% battery health and my new laptop with thresholds set and much better cooling was at 71% after 2 years.

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     Living in a tree (joey@stereophonic.space)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Apr-2026 16:18:17 JST Living in a tree

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     @wststreet @newt Charge start and end thresholds determine your batteries life span. There is various ways to set them. I use tlp.
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     Street | Train 🇷🇴 :vrchat: (wststreet@ani.work)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Apr-2026 16:18:18 JST Street | Train 🇷🇴 :vrchat:

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     @newt Is this just a reporting issue or would this potentially increase my battery life?

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     :suya: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Apr-2026 16:18:21 JST :suya:

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     @wststreet if you do the latter, make sure the battery is really empty in the second step. After it shuts down, wait a minute and try to power it on again. Plug it in only after it doesn't power on on its own.
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     @newt I'll give that a try, thanks!

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     :suya: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Apr-2026 16:18:23 JST :suya:

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     @wststreet try resetting the battery gauge. Usually, either there is a bios feature or a tool, or you just need to charge it to full, discharge it into nothingness until your laptop shuts down, then charge it to full again.
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     Street | Train 🇷🇴 :vrchat: (wststreet@ani.work)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Apr-2026 16:18:24 JST Street | Train 🇷🇴 :vrchat:

     My 2 year old laptop's battery health is at 71% after I've only charged it to 80% to take care of the battery.
     My old laptop from 8 years ago didn't have a way to limit charge so it was always at 100%, I even used it as a server for a while after I got my new laptop, always plugged in always charging and the battery health on it is 69%

     So what's the point in trying to take good care of the battery? I know heat plays a factor as well, but if anything, my new laptop is cooler than my old one. Old one had terrible airflow.