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   shortstories@merovingian.club's status on Thursday, 26-Feb-2026 14:38:37 JST shortstories

   What is sometimes called Evidence based medicine is not necessarily the same as medicine based on scientific principles or scientific models

   Evidence based medicine can go contrary to your personal observations and sometimes follows what Robert Jay Lifton called

   Doctrine Over Person

   In his book on Totalitarianism

   A scientific model may have been tested for multiple generations than predictions maybe made as to the effects of a treatment based on the model

   But the latest peer review...

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 26-Feb-2026 14:38:34 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Dr. Coyote, Conspiracy Therapist
     No. Modern science merely postulates a disease and then tests a substance or treatment. If the treatment doesn't work, the disease is still presumed real. That's anti-scientific. Maybe we have the disease wrong.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 26-Feb-2026 14:38:35 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Dr. Coyote, Conspiracy Therapist
     A significance test doesn't do what you describe. It ignores outliers. Thanks for playing.
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     Dr. Coyote, Conspiracy Therapist (coyote@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 26-Feb-2026 14:38:35 JST Dr. Coyote, Conspiracy Therapist

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     • ?? Humpleupagus ??
     @Humpleupagus @shortstories I do not know the background or OP's point. But the problem is, anyone that believes seeking trough matters, is discouraged and trampled on publicly. Science is science, what you are describing is corruption of PUBLISHED science (agree, it's fucked, totally, not true often). But fuck if I'm going to say "I don't trust science." I do, which is why anyone that says "trust the science" is INSANE. Science is to ADMIT you don't know what you think you already proved, because you could be wrong. "Authority" position, is not science. "Peer review" is corrupt as fuck (more each year) becoming acceptance and politically approval seeking for funding, and that goes back to ... ? John D. Rockefeller shit "let's make food and drugs out of oil and feed this poison to people. Honestly, goes back farther. But that is NOT science, that's voodoo politics and witchcraft with the power of media to convince people "science will help you."
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 26-Feb-2026 14:38:36 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     The problem with the scientific model is that it no longer looks for difference.
     
     When medicine first started "outliers" were looked at as being different for some reason, and often as evidence of a different disease. Now the disease is presumed "known" and outliers are just placebo effects
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     Dr. Coyote, Conspiracy Therapist (coyote@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 26-Feb-2026 14:38:36 JST Dr. Coyote, Conspiracy Therapist

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     • ?? Humpleupagus ??
     @Humpleupagus @shortstories WTF
     "problem with scientific model is that it no longer looks for difference" NO, not at all., It seeks the truth through proposed theory, AND THEN TESTS IT AS IF IT WAS WRONG TO DISPROVE IT. There is NOTHING wrong with that. The ONLY problem is politics, power, church, state, USE that model, and SILENCE decent if it doesn't work for them. You are describing "scientific publications" and I strongly suggest you look at who owns them. I spent until I was 30 years old "studying in universities" in the 90s.. I know how "scientists" (in academics) "tune there research to get funding, and don't bring up conflicting evidence" because of funding risks. The problem is, SCIENCE and scientists can NOT survive cancel culture and present facts.
     
     Point in fact.... Kary Mullis.
     
     "Science" was compromised decades ago, (global warming), it's only now when people see culture, media, everything, was compromised the go "science too now" (especially post-Covid). Trust me, they took down the truth in scientific publications DECADES ago... It was one of the first steps (Aaron Swartz knew that, and died for it)
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 26-Feb-2026 14:40:01 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     • Dr. Coyote, Conspiracy Therapist
     @Humpleupagus @Coyote @shortstories Couldn't agree more
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