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   Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 26-Feb-2026 08:55:15 JST Rich Felker

   RE: https://wandering.shop/@xgranade/116133127328052104

   We really need someone who's up for filing and pushing license compliance bug reports for each of these.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 26-Feb-2026 10:47:17 JST Rich Felker

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     • Torbjörn Norinder

     @tnorinder LLM "contributions" put them in worse shape.

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     Torbjörn Norinder (tnorinder@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Thursday, 26-Feb-2026 10:47:19 JST Torbjörn Norinder

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     @dalias python core has been on life support from corporations like GOOG for years. Of course they’ll take LLM contributions.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 27-Feb-2026 21:45:35 JST Rich Felker

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     • Demi Marie Obenour
     • Torbjörn Norinder

     @tnorinder @alwayscurious That is not at all what "concern trolling" means. And wasn't a very constructive response.

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     Torbjörn Norinder (tnorinder@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Friday, 27-Feb-2026 21:45:36 JST Torbjörn Norinder

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     • Demi Marie Obenour

     @alwayscurious @dalias nice concern trolling there

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     Demi Marie Obenour (alwayscurious@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 27-Feb-2026 21:45:37 JST Demi Marie Obenour

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     • Torbjörn Norinder

     @tnorinder @dalias Then how are the developers going to get paid?

     Serious question. CPython is critical infrastructure. Leaving its development to volunteers is obviously not a good idea.

     Ideally, critical open source software would be paid for by various governments through non-profit organizations. Sadly, that is currently nowhere near enough.

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     Torbjörn Norinder (tnorinder@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Friday, 27-Feb-2026 21:45:38 JST Torbjörn Norinder

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     @dalias agreed. I think we need a new approach to public software development which bans not only LLM contributions but corporate involvement altogether. ‘Free software’ as defined by the FSF (or similar) has clearly outlived its usefulness.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 27-Feb-2026 23:10:00 JST Rich Felker

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     • Demi Marie Obenour
     • Torbjörn Norinder

     @alwayscurious @tnorinder Corporate users of FOSS should be funding the people who already have allegiance to the projects, through the project organization of there is one, and clear terms that assure that they have no editorial control only entitlement to being displayed and credited as a sponsor.

     Not through hiring away developers to shift their allegiances to the corporation or inserting their own employees in the development process to drive things in directions they control.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 27-Feb-2026 23:20:06 JST Rich Felker

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     • Demi Marie Obenour
     • Torbjörn Norinder

     @tnorinder @alwayscurious I don't think it was implied that you should care just that the person asking does.

     Concern trolling would be "you shouldn't have that position because it undermines this thing I think you should care about as part of achieving your goal, a goal which, oh by the way, I'm opposed to but I don't want to tell you that".

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     Torbjörn Norinder (tnorinder@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Friday, 27-Feb-2026 23:20:08 JST Torbjörn Norinder

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     • Demi Marie Obenour

     @dalias @alwayscurious it is precisely concern trolling because it pretends capitalist concerns of levels of importance are my concerns. Software projects become ‘critical infrastructure’ when corpos can lever them for exploitation. Pushing for concern about the sustainability of this model is irrelevant under the conception of good I advocated for in my previous response

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 27-Feb-2026 23:29:07 JST Rich Felker

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     • Demi Marie Obenour
     • Torbjörn Norinder

     @alwayscurious @tnorinder Another reasonable thing for corporate users to be able to get in return for funding is prioritized bug confirmation and fixing. As long as that doesn't entail editorial control to decide what is a bug or that not doing things the way they want is a bug.

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     Laíns ⚡🌈🇵🇸 (missingclara@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Feb-2026 23:30:46 JST Laíns ⚡🌈🇵🇸

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     • Demi Marie Obenour
     • Torbjörn Norinder

     @dalias @alwayscurious @tnorinder that's the case in Python. due to corporate sponsorships the PSF has been able to hire 5 full time developers to work both CPython, and the Python infrastructure as a whole. these positions are directly sponsored, without any kind of editorial control, the only strings is that some of the positions are sponsored to work on a specific area (security, core development, etc.).