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   dick flattening enthusiast (dickflatteningenthusiast@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Feb-2026 17:44:33 JST dick flattening enthusiast
   Im at a bit of an impasse with my libtard friend. We've been arguing for months about whether or not immigration is making housing affordability worse, when it really should have been a 15 second discussion. Half a million more people in a year and only 50k new houses? Yep thats math. Brown bodies may be sacred, dirt may be magic, but numbers dont lie unless they're dirty white people "per capita" numbers, sorry sweaty 💅
   
   Anyway, we've come to the point where he agrees immigration is a contributing factor, he agrees its not making the situation better (i had to drag him kicking and screaming across that line), but he still maintains with absolute certainty that its a totally overblown right wing talking point to say that immigration is the reason young people cant afford houses.
   
   Thus far, he has made the following arguments at some point:
   >immigration is a distraction planted in the media by the rich
   >if we didnt have immigration the economy would crash and housing prices would get worse ("line go up" is his favourite snark meme but apparantly he has conniptions at the thought of line going down)
   >if we didnt have immigration we wouldnt have all this great ethnic food (he employed this as a non sequitur when i asked who benefits more from immigration, the rich or the poor)
   >billionaires buying family homes and sitting on them is causing the crisis
   >AirBNB is causing the crisis
   >tax policy which favours the rich is causing the crisis
   >construction costs are causing the crisis because rich people are charging too much for material
   >the government should provide housing for everyone who needs it
   >the government is incompetent at providing housing for everyone who needs it, so we should vote for the same people who are failing to provide government housing so they can provide government housing
   >the rich don't benefit from inflated housing prices being propped up by immigration (but the economy needs it to survive?)
   >the rich do benefit from inflated housing prices being propped up by other rich people
   
   Its almost as if crying about housing affordability isnt really the sincere concern here, its just an attack vector that instagram communists are using to proliferate their stale ideology among people who want to project an appearance of being A GOOD FUCKING PERSON.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Feb-2026 17:44:30 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • BowserNoodle ☦️
     Here's the problem. It's a multifactor issue. That each factor contributes less than all of the combined effect doesn't mean any one factor should be discounted or ignored.
     
     In fact, all events are the combined effect of many causes, so if his position is to "slice the salami thin" so as to ignore a factor, why not ignore all things?
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     dick flattening enthusiast (dickflatteningenthusiast@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Feb-2026 17:44:31 JST dick flattening enthusiast

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     @BowsacNoodle I have cracked him before with some topics, but its a rapidly self healing wound. My current theory is that on the odd occasion where he has no choice but to agree, his internal monologue tells him that the consequences of acting on this freshly adopted opinion are far too yucky icky nasty to accept and therefore it's the morally correct thing to sleep it off and wake up the next day back at his last autosave with his old opinions still loaded up.
     
     For example, we once went down a massive rabbithole on race and representation which started on his insistence that aborigines should be represented by aboriginal politicians and anything less is unfair and probably racist. We followed this the entire way down, like whether migrant groups should be entitled to their own ethnic representation when they establish ethnic enclaves in white countries, and finally landed on whether white people should be afforded the same.
     
     He eventually conceded that yes, white australians would be best represented by white politicians. I was half expecting him to add "and thats why we cant let it happen", but this guy isnt really a frothing anti-white ghoul, he just doesnt see why he should be worried about other ethnic minorities getting a leg-up over whites in power politics because us whites have it so good already. Its just the RICH whites we have to punish. Grrr.
     
     Its an extremely unserious position which he shares with the "rich people" demographic of entitled boomers he constantly professes to hate and, ironically, i would argue that in some ways it makes his fundamental assumptions about the world closer to the white supremacist position of european exceptionalism than the civilisation-destroying faggot commie algorithm slop i know he absorbs his opinions from.
     
     To put it in other terms, he's complaining about boomers pulling up their big, golden ladder behind them while demanding that the much smaller ladder the he and I have to share must be given away to foreign people who havent yet figured out how to build their own ladder, instead of passing it down to our children.
     
     I even likened his position to being an opaque and nebulous inheritance tax applied by other means, and his response was "i think we should have inheritance taxes for sure, it would prevent wealth accumulation among the rich".
     
     You can try and try and try to untangle that gordian knot comprised of all the various threads of his regurgitated, feel-good positions, but they're all so tightly bound together into this emotional class-based dogma that he'll have tangled that first thread back up by the time you've picked apart the second.
     
     The only sword that can slash through that knot is an overwhelming shift in public opinion. The only times i've seen his views change have been when the consensus flips and the moral courage of wielding the majority opinion emboldens him to do so.
     
     When covid began and i was concerned about this mystery virus supposedly ripping through China, he thought i was acting crazy for buying masks. When the pandemic really kicked off and the lockdowns began, he thought i was acting crazy for not wearing a mask at all times in public spaces, even when it was becoming abundantly clear that they weren't doing jack shit for the kind of disease we were all trying to avoid.
     
     It would be futile for me to expect that I can reason him out of his unreasonable positions but as someone who evidently loves to complain about things at absurd length, arguing with him over politics is like a giant ball of black tar heroin to me.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Feb-2026 17:44:32 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @dickflatteningenthusiast >He's a reasonably intelligent guy, but when you start talking about politics its like warping into an episode of Always Sunny.
     You’re cracking his world view and the cognitive dissonance is too much for him. He might get there still.
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     dick flattening enthusiast (dickflatteningenthusiast@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Feb-2026 17:44:33 JST dick flattening enthusiast

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     When I showed him the immigration figures vs. the total houses brought to market for the last available reporting period, he said the numbers can't possibly be correct because the government wouldn't let that many people in with such an obvious deficit in places to put them. Someone, somewhere along that data reporting process is lying with an agenda.
     
     This, to him, is evidence that the right wing talking points are so dumb that they can only work on idiot right wingers who will never fact check the media.
     
     He's a reasonably intelligent guy, but when you start talking about politics its like warping into an episode of Always Sunny.
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     EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Feb-2026 18:01:11 JST EvolLove

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     • BowserNoodle ☦️

     @Humpleupagus @BowsacNoodle @dickflatteningenthusiast

     All factors combined dwarfs in comparison.

     And he is wrong about his idea of the rich people that are hording houses.

     They are not as he seem to think representing White america in any way. No rather they are thriving on this situation thus they want more mass immigration.

     They are likely to be found among the democrats private donors.

     While he is under the impression that everyone that is rich is a White racist man.

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Feb-2026 18:18:44 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • EvolLove
     Have you told him it's not simply that they're immigrants, but that they'll live 10 to an apartment, and therefore, two incomes can't even compete.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Feb-2026 18:24:07 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • EvolLove
     Which inturn drives up rent, which drives up vouchers....
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     EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Feb-2026 18:24:08 JST EvolLove

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     • BowserNoodle ☦️

     @Humpleupagus @BowsacNoodle @dickflatteningenthusiast

     How about the fact that you will pay the rent for them?

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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Feb-2026 22:22:16 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     • EvolLove
     @Humpleupagus @EvolLove @dickflatteningenthusiast “That’s just a lie that rich people invented to prevent competition” (probably). We’re back into the cycle. OP’s posts suggest he’s on it. This one is just an onion with many self-healing layers. Eventually he’ll catch on (or not), but be probably has to realize it himself when it personally impacts him or someone he knows.
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